tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2374290665921138797.post7956752221635253378..comments2023-06-16T07:16:35.729-07:00Comments on STONES : TheThree Legs of the Natural Born Citizen Demand ObamaCody Robert Judyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17604281956365622417noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2374290665921138797.post-48708345057785606702012-01-19T19:28:07.956-08:002012-01-19T19:28:07.956-08:00I don't recall Sen. McCain's Daddy being t...I don't recall Sen. McCain's Daddy being the one who got Pregnant? I believe that was Sen. McCain's mother who was not enlisted in the military or serving in our military as his father did and was.<br /><br />McCain's citizenship as a son of Panama comes naturally from being born in a foreign state that was not controlled by our military.<br /><br />He wasn't even born in a military hospital. I'd think you would take your frustration out on Sen. McCain for asking for 511 if he didn't think he needed it?<br /><br />The only reason I bring that up is because if I don't, I get called a racist for sueing Obama because there's a heck of a lot of people in the media who see the deal struck by McCain with the Democrat controlled Senate.<br /><br /> Read my lastest blog..<br />http://www.thepostemail.com/2012/01/19/what-are-competitive-standing-and-the-political-doctrine-question-in-obamas-q/<br /><br />You know I am focused on Obama now, but I think the work done in suing McCain is moot now, McCain will never be President. Put it to bed.<br /><br />Thank you for your sincere love for our Constitution., at least you acknowledge The Law of Nations in the Constitution. Most of Congress doesn't, or justify any representation of Vattel within our Constitution through the Law of Nations.<br /><br />God Bless America - take care Rambo Ike<br /><br />CodyCody Robert Judyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17604281956365622417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2374290665921138797.post-18176349984239726412012-01-19T17:26:39.972-08:002012-01-19T17:26:39.972-08:00This isn't only about McCain. There are others...This isn't only about McCain. There are others in the military (past & present) who this affects. <br /><br />Forget about that non-binding resolution. That was just 'smoke & mirrors' to deceive the public. Congress can't legislate anyone into being a 'natural born Citizen'. At birth a child is either natural born or they are not.<br /><br />The Founders/Framers use of Vattel's Law of Nations for 'natural born Citizen' had it right. Contrary to what you're doing they didn't eliminate Vattel's "§ 217. Children born in the armies of the state".<br /><br />What's lame is calling McCain a 'dual citizen'. It shows that you and others doing this either have subscribed to a double standard of picking and choosing what parts of Vattel's work you want to use for your own self-interest, or don't comprehend what he wrote.<br /><br />If Vattel wasn't making a 'Jus Soli exemption' for members of the military serving outside of their country and having a child born to them during that time then there would be no reason for him to include: "§ 217. Children born in the armies of the state". <br /><br />Notice what Vattel says in § 215 & § 216: "By the law of nature alone, children follow the condition of their fathers", and "it is our extraction, not the place of our birth, that gives us rights".<br /><br />§ 217: "children born out of the country, in the armies of the state,....................are reputed born in the country (America); for a citizen who is absent with his family (McCain's daddy was a citizen), on the service of the state (McCain's daddy under military orders), but still dependent on it (getting military pay from the US [taxes?]), and subject to its jurisdiction (as a citizen, not the foreign soil), cannot be considered as having quitted its territory".<br /><br />In McCain's case, since both parents were citizens, he became a natural born Citizen. The soil (Panama) was in this instance not applicable for determining his American citizenship (natural born).<br /><br />I suggest you take the time and read the whole Chapter XIX of Vattel's Law of Nations, Book I<br /><br />We do agree on the Constitution, and Vattel's work defining natural born Citizen.<br /><br />Rambo IkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2374290665921138797.post-81727631466400531432012-01-17T18:10:40.763-08:002012-01-17T18:10:40.763-08:00Well, that would be like asking McCain if he was g...Well, that would be like asking McCain if he was giving the finger to Vattel by asking the U.S. Senate for a Non-binding Senate Resolution because…?<br /> <br />I suspect our Founders and Framers thought as Sen. John McCain did that part of being a natural born citizen was indeed being born in the Country.<br /><br />I don't expect my middle finger to be raised to our military anymore than they would raise it to the Constitution.<br /><br />I'm sorry we disagree but clearly we do and the Congressional Actions taken to first make McCain a Citizen, and then the second Congressional Action taken to make him a natural born citizen were just lame.<br /><br />Our President cannot be a dual citizen, and McCain born on Foreign Soil making him fond of that place rather than the States when it comes to his birth, are my positions.<br /><br />Would you expect our Military to give a middle finger to our U.S.C., over one person in 10 million not being able to run for President and only being able to be a Congressmen or Senator?<br /><br />That seems the very weak limb you’re reaching for and clearly you haven't read Judy v. Obama yet, because if you had you understand McCain's problems are suspect from the second of the two prong test also which I brought out.<br /><br />Our Military Men and Women serve the Constitution and take an oath to that. The Constitution doesn't take an oath to bend for them. That's why they happen to love it.<br /><br />The saddest commentary would be to use our Military against the U.S.C.Cody Robert Judyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17604281956365622417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2374290665921138797.post-89709768670948779832012-01-16T07:36:19.125-08:002012-01-16T07:36:19.125-08:00Are you giving the middle finger to our long servi...Are you giving the middle finger to our long serving military families?<br /><br />What is it about Vattel's "§ 217. Children born in the armies of the state" that you can't understand?<br /><br />John McCain's father (John S. McCain Jr.), who later became a 4 star Admiral was under military orders and an oath to our Constitution. He didn't quit on his country (USA).<br /><br />Rino John McCain, who I'm not a fan of, could have been born at the North Pole with Doctor Santa doing the delivery and still be a natural born Citizen so long as both his parents were USA citizens prior to Rino John McCain's birth and his father was under military orders to be stationed outside the USA. <br /><br />As you stated in your article it was "your belief". Your belief doesn't override the Constitution or Vattel. As you stated: "The Law of Nations is actually mentioned in our U.S. Constitution which defines natural born citizen............."<br /><br />You and the other clowns who have filed lawsuits against McCain over this don't know what your talking about. You got it right on 0bumm0 the marxist usurping the Presidency per the Constitution and Vattle's Law of Nations. <br /><br />You know you've hit bottom when a..hole BadFiction McKinnion calls you out on it. <br /><br />How about showing more respect for those families who have a long history of service in our military. Thx<br /><br />Rambo Ike<br /><br />PS: I'm the "Anonymous"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2374290665921138797.post-15469687675514121692012-01-10T18:01:28.563-08:002012-01-10T18:01:28.563-08:00§ 220. Whether a person may quit his country.
Many...§ 220. Whether a person may quit his country.<br />Many distinctions will be necessary, in order to give a complete solution to the celebrated question, whether a man may quit his country or the society of which he is a member.(60) — 1. The children are bound by natural ties to the society in which they were born<br /><br /><br />Thanks for your comment I am familiar with that.<br />Judy v. Obama if you care to read covers my law suit against McCain.<br /><br />http://www.scribd.com/doc/22288917/Judy-v-Obama<br /><br />http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/11/us/politics/11mccain.html<br /><br />http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract-id=1157621<br /><br />But you probably have already looked at these if you were interested.<br /><br />Thanks for your comment.. please sign your name next time. Thank you.<br /><br />CodyCody Robert Judyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17604281956365622417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2374290665921138797.post-11044925137606937702012-01-10T17:13:03.746-08:002012-01-10T17:13:03.746-08:00CodyJudy: "....the reason that I sued Sen. Jo...CodyJudy: "....the reason that I sued Sen. John McCain in 2008 because he wasn’t born in the United States, but was born in Panama in the Panama Hospital...." <br /><br />CodyJudy: "I know the Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land trumping any “case law”, however The Law of Nations is actually mentioned in our U.S. Constitution which defines natural born citizen............." <br /><br /><br />Regarding McCain:<br /><br />Vattel's 'THE LAW OF NATIONS'<br /><br />Book I. Chapter XIX<br />'Of Our Native Country, And Several Things That Relate To It'<br /><br />§ 217. Children born in the armies of the state.<br />(Vattel): "For the same reasons also, children born out of the country, in the armies of the state, or in the house of its minister at a foreign court, are reputed born in the country; for a citizen who is absent with his family, on the service of the state, but still dependent on it, and subject to its jurisdiction, cannot be considered as having quitted its territory."<br /><br />http://constitution.org/vattel/vattel_01.htmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com